[Gta04-owner] [Community] The future of QtMoko

Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller hns at goldelico.com
Tue Sep 23 19:55:40 CEST 2014


Am 23.09.2014 um 19:47 schrieb Gilles Filippini <gilles.filippini at free.fr>:

> Hi,
> Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller a écrit , Le 23/09/2014 19:19:
>> Hi,
>> since I know that there are many QtMoko lovers out there who wait for
>> new versions or new hardware that is supported, I have set up our own
>> build system to compile QtMoko v58 and create GTA04-single-partition
>> SD card images that might work with the newer DT based kernels we
>> are working on.
>> Here is the first result (installer for a 3.17-DT based GTA04 kernel and the
>> last official rootfs):
>> 	http://download.goldelico.com/gta04/qtmoko/
>> 		makesd + unstable.tbz
>> It boots well an the touch is working. But of course many /sys nodes
>> have changed so that there is neither WLAN, Bluetooth or WWAN.
>> And no battery charging, sensors etc. But GPS appears to do something.
>> This raises some questions, especially as it appears that QtMoko isn’t
>> developed any more. At least there have been no commits in the last
>> 9 months.
>> The first practical question is how to easily run the compile/test/fix cycle.
>> It took several days on my setup (build within qemu-system-arm -M vexpress-a9)
>> to build the qtmoko-gta04.deb, but finally it failed.
>> The next step, building a new rootfs and install and boot is much faster but
>> still slow.
>> Q1: Is there a simple method to get the development cycle down to some minutes
>> or even sub-minute?
> It's been a long time since I last built QtMoko. It was cross-built on a
> Debian amd64 box [1] in about 5 1/2 hours. It might be possible to go
> down to a couple of hours on a decent box with parallel build enabled. See:
> https://github.com/pini-gh/qtmoko/blob/master/debian/README.source
> [1] AMD Athlon(tm) Neo X2 Dual Core Processor L325


Does it appear possible to split up qtmoko into smaller packages that can be
independently compiled, updated, installed, tested? So that apt-get install qtmoko
just loads a meta-package?

BR and thanks,

> Thanks,
> _g.
>> Q2: The next question is how to adapt QtMoko to newer kernels since I assume
>> that there are some dependencies - at least in the /sys file names.
>> Q3: Another question comes from the idea that QtMoko should not only run on
>> the GTA02/04 devices but others as well. At least Letux 3704 and Letux7004,
>> but OpenPandora, Pyra and Neo900 are also nice candidates. Interested?
>> Q4: This raises a follow-up question: does QtMoko (and the apps) adapt automatically
>> to different screen sizes (or orientations like Neo900)?
>> Q5: Apropos GTA04: we could make QtMoko the standard install of the GTA04A5
>> production image - retiring the primitive LXDE… Interested?
>> Q6: The next question goes @Radek (I hope he still reads here): do you plan to
>> continue this work, i.e. accept patches? Or should we start and maintain a fork?
>> Q7: Finally, who is interested in developing and contributing towards making QtMoko
>> the most simple but greatest Telephony-GUI and helps to push the packages to
>> the mainline Debian?
>> Q8: should we base future development on donations like the kernel and Replicant?
>> If we find enough donations we could even pay someone for working continuously
>> on it.
>> A9: Other thoughs?
>> BR,
>> Nikolaus
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