<font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hello Nikolaus,</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">> Well, we also don't have too much
spare time to hand it on a silver platter :)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Please don't misunderstand me. I never
expected a silver platter. I just tried a first naive test with minimal
effort.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I understand very well that I failed
and thus need to reconsider much stuff, that has been well archived by
me, but simply never used again for several years, now.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I'm also willing to think about kernel
versions by myself. All the according previous mails from you have been
archived by me. Now it seems to be the time that I begin to read them again,
at least the last ones.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">But I need to beg you to understand
that for the moment having a well working GTA04 is more important for me
than trying out new things. Due to the lack of time I need to avoid everything
that could brick the well running v55 system. So I need to go one small
step after the other. First step would be to update the bootloader. Will
do that not before I'm sure to know again how to reflash the old one in
case that the new one will cause problems with v55. What means that unfortunately
it might take weeks or months until I can tell you some test results...</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Best regards</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Sven</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> </font>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Von:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"H. Nikolaus Schaller"
<hns@goldelico.com></font>
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<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Datum:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">26.02.2018 18:48</font>
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Antwort: Re: Antwort: QtMoko: a dream comes true
:)</font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Gesendet von:
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<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3>Hello Sven,</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3>Am 26.02.2018 um 17:54 schrieb Sven Dyroff <</font><a href=mailto:S.Dyroff@phytec.de><font size=3 color=blue><u>S.Dyroff@phytec.de</u></font></a><font size=3>>:</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hello Nikolaus,</font><font size=3>
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
> Well, this also deletes the kernel modules. And an uImage in /boot.</font><font size=3>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
> This means that boot.scr did not find a bootable kernel.</font><font size=3>
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
I conclude that this means that your tar-image comes without (default)
kernel. </font>
<br>
<br><font size=3>Yes. Because it can be mixed with different kernels. That
mixing is done by makesd.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Ok, I see, there's more time needed
than expected...</font><font size=3> </font>
<br>
<br><font size=3>Well, we also don't have too much spare time to hand it
on a silver platter :)</font>
<br><font size=3>At the moment this It is more alpha than beta...</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
But before I do this work I have a question:</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
In the past conversation it had been mentioned that currently no themes
are available. But if I understood correctly, you "only" reworked
the build sequence. So how could this be possible? I can remember that
after changing the build sequence to use hardflow toolchain, Finxi theme
was disfunctional for some time and required Radek to do some magic in
order to get it running again in a later release. But never the theme was
lost completely.</font><font size=3> </font>
<br>
<br><font size=3>Well, the issue was that the theme .deb files were built
but they were lost on the multi-stage journey from the SBC (where they
were compiled) to the download server...</font>
<br><font size=3>They ended up in the wrong directory and did not become
visible/accessible.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3>I have not yet checked if they work, but "apt-get
install qtmoko-theme-finximod" does succeed (you may need "apt-get
update" first).</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
I'm asking because without Finxi theme I rather will keep going on with
the pretty and stable v55 for now. I would enjoy to support you again with
some testing and I'm also willing to risc some regressions, as long as
a) I can be sure that after replacing the old v55 SD card my system behaves
like usual again and b) I can do the testing with Finxi theme...
;-)</font><font size=3> </font>
<br>
<br><font size=3>That is difficult to answer since I have no v55 system
running and have not yet tried the Finxi theme.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3>BR,</font>
<br><font size=3>Nikolaus</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Best regards</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Sven</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
</font><font size=3><br>
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Datum: </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">26.02.2018
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<br>
<br>
Hi Sven, <br>
<br>
Am 26.02.2018 um 14:36 schrieb Sven Dyroff <</font><a href=mailto:S.Dyroff@phytec.de><font size=3 color=blue><u>S.Dyroff@phytec.de</u></font></a><font size=3>>:
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Hello Nikolaus,</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
meanwhile I gave it a trial, but unfortunately it doesn't boot. Since I
haven't created a new SD card for my GTA04A4 anymore since several years,
also haven't done any configuration for it in this time, thus forgot many
details and also didn't want to spend too much time, but wanted to avoid
everything that could brick my well working system, I thought I could be
very clever by just going the following simple way:</font><font size=3>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
1.) I created a 1:1 clone of the working SD card which I had inside the
phone. It showed to be QtMoko v55. In my cupboard I found an SD card with
QtMoko v57 which was also working, but I even don't know anymore why I
kept v55 in my phone and not the v57. So I decided to use the v55 for cloning.</font><font size=3>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
2.) I verified that the clone was really functional. Indeed it came up
with QtMoko v55 perfectly working.</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
3.) I erased the old rootfs by executing "sudo mkfs.ext4 -L rootfs
/dev/sde2". </font><font size=3><br>
<br>
Well, this also deletes the kernel modules. And an uImage in /boot. <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Then mounted the new and empty fs and untared your new QtMoko rootfs to
there.</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
After putting the SD card into the phone and powering it on I get the conversant
penguin of your bootloader. But then I only get a completely white screen
together with power LED blinking slowly red-green-yellow-black and bootbutton
LED blinking fast the same sequence red-green-yellow-black.</font><font size=3>
<br>
<br>
This means that boot.scr did not find a bootable kernel. <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
In the past conversation it had been mentioned that the new image will
not boot from SD card. How can this be fixed? Pressing the boot button
doesn't show any effect in my case.</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
Furthermore: Might it be that it's mandatory to use the current bootloader?
(Which would mean that I need to spend much more time in order to get familiar
again with all the details that might follow as consequence.)</font><font size=3>
<br>
<br>
Well, a current boot loader might be required and can be generally recommended.
<br>
Please note that you might not be able to boot the NAND system any more,
depending <br>
on how old the original boot loader is. <br>
<br>
Step 1: upgrade boot loader <br>
<br>
* use latest makesd <br>
* DEV=/dev/sdb makesd gta04 debian -- (assuming you don't have a GTA04A5
which would need "gta04one") <br>
* boot with this SD card (with pressing the AUX button) <br>
* screen should turn red when flashing the boot loader <br>
<br>
Step 2: install qtmoko wheezy (the jessie variant has a significant bug
we have not yet found the solution) <br>
<br>
* use makesd again <br>
* DEV=/dev/sdb makesd qtmoko -r </font><a href="http://download.goldelico.com/letux-debian-rootfs/20180224-wheezy-7.11-armhf-qtmoko.tbz"><font size=3 color=blue><u>http://download.goldelico.com/letux-debian-rootfs/20180224-wheezy-7.11-armhf-qtmoko.tbz</u></font></a><font size=3>
<br>
<br>
BR and good luck, <br>
Nikolaus <br>
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
Best regards</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Sven</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
</font><font size=3><br>
</font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif"><br>
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Von: </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"H.
Nikolaus Schaller" <</font><a href=mailto:hns@goldelico.com><font size=1 color=blue face="sans-serif"><u>hns@goldelico.com</u></font></a><font size=1 face="sans-serif">></font><font size=3>
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Datum: </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">22.02.2018
15:10</font><font size=3> </font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif"><br>
Betreff: </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Re:
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:)</font><font size=3> </font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif"><br>
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<hr noshade><font size=3><br>
</font><tt><font size=3><br>
<br>
Am 22.02.2018 um 15:00 schrieb Sven Dyroff <</font></tt><a href=mailto:S.Dyroff@phytec.de><tt><font size=3 color=blue><u>S.Dyroff@phytec.de</u></font></tt></a><tt><font size=3>>:</font></tt><font size=3>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
Hello Nikolaus,</font><tt><font size=3> </font></tt><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
ok, got it! Once again thank you very much!</font><tt><font size=3> </font></tt><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
But I need to beg you for some time. On the one hand I'm very excited to
check the new verison after such a long time, on the other hand I already
have been very busy at the moment before your announcement reached me.
Now I need to see what will when be possible to be done...</font><tt><font size=3>
<br>
<br>
No problem... We did dream for such a long time that some days make no
difference...</font></tt><font size=3> </font><tt><font size=3><br>
<br>
BR,</font></tt><font size=3> </font><tt><font size=3><br>
Nikolaus</font></tt><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
Best regards</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Sven</font><tt><font size=3> <br>
<br>
</font></tt><font size=3><br>
<br>
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Datum: </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">22.02.2018
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<br>
Hi Sven, <br>
<br>
Am 22.02.2018 um 14:36 schrieb Sven Dyroff <</font></tt><a href=mailto:S.Dyroff@phytec.de><tt><font size=3 color=blue><u>S.Dyroff@phytec.de</u></font></tt></a><tt><font size=3>>:
</font></tt><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
Hello Nicolaus,</font><tt><font size=3> </font></tt><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
very good news!</font><tt><font size=3> </font></tt><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
> Downloads: </font><a href="http://download.goldelico.com/letux-debian-rootfs/?C=M;O=D"><font size=2 color=blue face="sans-serif"><u>http://download.goldelico.com/letux-debian-rootfs/?C=M;O=D</u></font></a><font size=2 face="sans-serif">
- look for *-qtmoko.tbz</font><tt><font size=3> </font></tt><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
I can find:</font><tt><font size=3> </font></tt><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
- 0180222-wheezy-7.11-armhf-qtmoko.tbz 2018-02-22 01:48 174M</font><tt><font size=3>
</font></tt><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
- latest-armhf-qtmoko.tbz 2018-02-21 19:03 198M</font><tt><font size=3>
</font></tt><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
- 20180221-jessie-8.10-armhf-qtmoko.tbz 2018-02-21 19:03 198M</font><tt><font size=3>
</font></tt><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
- 20180216-jessie-8.10-armhf-qtmoko.tbz 2018-02-16 19:34 198M</font><tt><font size=3>
</font></tt><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
- 20180216-wheezy-7.11-armhf-qtmoko.tbz 2018-02-16 17:11 174M</font><tt><font size=3>
</font></tt><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
- 20180113-wheezy-7.11-armhf-qtmoko.tbz 2018-01-13 12:35 174M</font><tt><font size=3>
</font></tt><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
Which one is recommended?</font><tt><font size=3> </font></tt><font size=3>
</font><tt><font size=3><br>
<br>
The <br>
<br>
latest-armhf-qtmoko.tbz <br>
<br>
which is the same as <br>
<br>
20180221-jessie-8.10-armhf-qtmoko.tbz <br>
<br>
The wheezy variant doesn't support modern kernels well.</font></tt><font size=3>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
You know: I like QtMoko because of its Finxi theme and no other! Beyond
that I widely leave it up on you how to go best into the future...
;-)</font><tt><font size=3> </font></tt><font size=3> </font><tt><font size=3><br>
<br>
So maybe you can help to make the Finxi theme work again... <br>
I am not sure if themes already work. <br>
<br>
BR, <br>
Nikolaus </font></tt><font size=3><br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
Best regards</font><tt><font size=3> </font></tt><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Sven</font><tt><font size=3> </font></tt><font size=3><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
Hi, <br>
I am happy to announce that after years of <br>
abandonment and obsolescence, QtMoko is back in <br>
maintained mode. <br>
<br>
After several failed attempts, we now have a git <br>
tree and a build system where we can apply <br>
modifications and accept patches. And we <br>
need testers :) <br>
<br>
Currently, we have a Wheezy and a Jessie based <br>
(different git branches) and both run on the <br>
GTA04(A3, A4, A5) with latest Letux kernels. <br>
<br>
Basically QtMoko also starts and runs on the Pyra, <br>
but there is nothing to see on the display yet. <br>
It simply remains black... <br>
<br>
Here are the key resources: <br>
<br>
Project Home: </font></tt><a href="http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-qtmoko/"><tt><font size=3 color=blue><u>http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-qtmoko/</u></font></tt></a><tt><font size=3>
- also for reporting issues <br>
Git: </font></tt><a href="http://git.goldelico.com/?p=gta04-qtmoko.git;a=heads"><tt><font size=3 color=blue><u>http://git.goldelico.com/?p=gta04-qtmoko.git;a=heads</u></font></tt></a><tt><font size=3>
<br>
Downloads: </font></tt><a href="http://download.goldelico.com/letux-debian-rootfs/?C=M;O=D"><tt><font size=3 color=blue><u>http://download.goldelico.com/letux-debian-rootfs/?C=M;O=D</u></font></tt></a><tt><font size=3>
- look for *-qtmoko.tbz <br>
Install on µSD: DEV=/dev/sdb ./makesd qtmoko
- to install a Jessie based system <br>
Letux-Debian: apt-get install letux-qtmoko -
to install if you have installed a different Letux system <br>
<br>
Here are screen photos of QtMoko/Jessie/Kernel-4.15.2 <br>
running on a GTA04: <br>
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Some things are not yet working and missing and <br>
some Apps crash after starting, but we are just at <br>
the beginning to be able to fix things. <br>
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Of course our little team can't do all that alone. <br>
We need you and the broader community to help with <br>
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BR and thanks, <br>
Nikolaus <br>
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