[Gta04-owner] Second trial with QtMoko2
H. Nikolaus Schaller
hns at goldelico.com
Fri Apr 13 22:42:49 CEST 2018
Hi,
> Am 13.04.2018 um 20:06 schrieb H. Nikolaus Schaller <hns at goldelico.com>:
>
> Hi Sven,
>
>> Am 13.04.2018 um 19:29 schrieb Sven Dyroff <S.Dyroff at phytec.de <mailto:S.Dyroff at phytec.de>>:
>>
>> Hello Nikolaus,
>>
>> on my GTA04A5 it behaves exactly as expected: The ball now moves to the correct directions,
>
> Fine! One problem solved.
>
>> but slowly and stuttering.
>
> Bugs are like onions or matryoshka dolls :)
>
> Isn't that what one would expect? It starts slowly and becomes faster and faster, i.e. accelerates over time.
>
>> Like if you view a film with not enough pictures per second.
>
> Or do you mean that the ball is jumping by single pixels if you tilt the device just a little?
> I have made a short video how it looks on my GTA04:
>
> http://download.goldelico.com/qtmoko2/files/MAH00877.m4v <http://download.goldelico.com/qtmoko2/files/MAH00877.m4v>
I have uploaded it to YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHk8AtigL4k
>
> Does it look the same for you?
Ok, here is an old Freerunner video for comparison (thanks to Raanan Elefant):
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jaRtQOPMBO4
I think we either have lower accelerometer sensitivity or the frame-rate is lower.
For the latter we need some expert who knows how Qt really works and
controls the frame rate...
BR,
Nikolaus
>
> BR,
> Nikolaus
>
>>
>> Best regards
>> Sven
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Von: "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns at goldelico.com <mailto:hns at goldelico.com>>
>> An: List for communicating with real GTA04 owners <gta04-owner at goldelico.com <mailto:gta04-owner at goldelico.com>>
>> Datum: 13.04.2018 17:48
>> Betreff: Re: [Gta04-owner] Second trial with QtMoko2
>> Gesendet von: "Gta04-owner" <gta04-owner-bounces at goldelico.com <mailto:gta04-owner-bounces at goldelico.com>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Sven,
>>
>> Am 12.04.2018 um 19:35 schrieb H. Nikolaus Schaller <hns at goldelico.com <mailto:hns at goldelico.com>>:
>>
>> Hi Sven,
>>
>> Am 12.04.2018 um 17:55 schrieb Sven Dyroff <S.Dyroff at phytec.de <mailto:S.Dyroff at phytec.de>>:
>>
>> Hello Nikolaus,
>>
>> have you tried if GTA04A5 now moves the ball in QtMaze as smooth, fast and natural and without stuttering as the GTA04A4?
>>
>> Well, I don't know what you expect for "smooth, fast and natura"l, I just found that they move almost the same now
>> between both devices - and qtmoko2.
>>
>> So, finally, I have checked (and additionally fixed the z axis inversion for GTA04A5) and the files are now on the server:
>>
>> root at letux:~# apt-get upgrade
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> The following packages will be upgraded:
>> qtmoko-gta04
>> 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
>> Need to get 24.2 MB of archives.
>> After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
>> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
>> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
>> qtmoko-gta04
>> Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y
>> Get:1 http://download.goldelico.com/letux-debian-rootfs/debian/ <http://download.goldelico.com/letux-debian-rootfs/debian/> wheezy/main qtmoko-gta04 armhf 60.20180413-1 [24.2 MB]
>> Fetched 24.2 MB in 32s (737 kB/s)
>> (Reading database ... 21235 files and directories currently installed.)
>> Preparing to replace qtmoko-gta04 60.20180411-1 (using .../qtmoko-gta04_60.20180413-1_armhf.deb) ...
>> Unpacking replacement qtmoko-gta04 ...
>> Setting up qtmoko-gta04 (60.20180413-1) ...
>> localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/locale: 0 KiB
>> localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/man: 0 KiB
>>
>> Total disk space freed by localepurge: 0 KiB
>>
>> root at letux:~#
>>
>> BR,
>> Nikolaus
>>
>>
>> I don't have time to make a 2nd SD cards to boot two devices and compare them in parallel...
>>
>> So answering this question seems to be in better hands if you do it.
>>
>> BR,
>> Nikolaus
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>> Sven
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Von: "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns at goldelico.com <mailto:hns at goldelico.com>>
>> An: List for communicating with real GTA04 owners <gta04-owner at goldelico.com <mailto:gta04-owner at goldelico.com>>
>> Datum: 12.04.2018 14:52
>> Betreff: Re: [Gta04-owner] Second trial with QtMoko2
>> Gesendet von: "Gta04-owner" <gta04-owner-bounces at goldelico.com <mailto:gta04-owner-bounces at goldelico.com>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 12.04.2018 um 14:32 schrieb Sven Dyroff <S.Dyroff at phytec.de <mailto:S.Dyroff at phytec.de>>:
>>
>> Hello Nikolaus,
>>
>> it would astonish me if you're right, but of course I'll then test it again in order to give you a chance to astonish me... :-))
>>
>> I have done this test for you:
>>
>> GTA04A4 and GTA04A5 with display upside on the table with the same µSD card (i.e. boot A5 first, then swap card and boot A4).
>> Run evtest /dev/input/accel | head -20 and write down highest X/Y/Z values.
>>
>> On a GTA04A5:
>>
>> root at letux:~# evtest /dev/input/accel | head -20
>> Input driver version is 1.0.1
>> Input device ID: bus 0x0 vendor 0x0 product 0x0 version 0x0
>> Input device name: "accelerometer-iio-input-bridge"
>> Supported events:
>> Event type 0 (EV_SYN)
>> Event type 3 (EV_ABS)
>> Event code 0 (ABS_X)
>> Value 14
>> Min -511
>> Max 511
>> Event code 1 (ABS_Y)
>> Value -32
>> Min -511
>> Max 511
>> Event code 2 (ABS_Z)
>> Value -253
>> Min -511
>> Max 511
>> Properties:
>> Testing ... (interrupt to exit)
>> root at letux:~#
>>
>> This means: X=14/256 = +5%, Y=--32/256 = -12%, Z=-253/256 = -99%
>>
>> On a GTA04A4:
>>
>> root at letux:~# evtest /dev/input/accel | head -20
>> Input driver version is 1.0.1
>> Input device ID: bus 0x0 vendor 0x0 product 0x0 version 0x0
>> Input device name: "accelerometer-iio-input-bridge"
>> Supported events:
>> Event type 0 (EV_SYN)
>> Event type 3 (EV_ABS)
>> Event code 0 (ABS_X)
>> Value -15
>> Min -511
>> Max 511
>> Event code 1 (ABS_Y)
>> Value -5
>> Min -511
>> Max 511
>> Event code 2 (ABS_Z)
>> Value 274
>> Min -511
>> Max 511
>> Properties:
>> Testing ... (interrupt to exit)
>> root at letux:~#
>>
>> This means: X=-15/256 = +6%, Y=--5/256 = -2%, Z=274/256 = +107%
>>
>> Comparing A4 and A5: they basically behave *the same* regarding the range
>> and report both +/-256 for 1g. They just differ in the orientation of the sensor.
>>
>> I.e. the Z axis also has a sign error. This is still missing in my correction patch.
>> To make it really precise I should rotate both devices by 90° and write down all
>> values...
>>
>> What I don't know and can't compare is if they behave like a GTA02... And
>> if a total value of ~1g is what QtMaze expects. And if the QtMaze makes use
>> of the Z-axis at all (doesn't look as if it does).
>>
>> BR,
>> Nikolaus
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>> Sven
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Von: "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns at goldelico.com <mailto:hns at goldelico.com>>
>> An: List for communicating with real GTA04 owners <gta04-owner at goldelico.com <mailto:gta04-owner at goldelico.com>>
>> Datum: 12.04.2018 14:25
>> Betreff: Re: [Gta04-owner] Second trial with QtMoko2
>> Gesendet von: "Gta04-owner" <gta04-owner-bounces at goldelico.com <mailto:gta04-owner-bounces at goldelico.com>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Sven,
>>
>> Am 12.04.2018 um 14:19 schrieb Sven Dyroff <S.Dyroff at phytec.de <mailto:S.Dyroff at phytec.de>>:
>>
>> Hello Nikolaus,
>>
>> fine, but this will "only" correct the swapping. It will still not correct the calibration.
>>
>> Whereat the comments of the affected source give a nice hint: "On my GTA04, sitting flat on the table, the raw Z acceleration value is about 256, so we divide by 256 here."
>>
>> So I suggest to add a further printf of the value of "accel -> z", in order that your code will provide you the needed calibration data that you can then use for "accel -> [xyz]scale" in case of having detected a GTA04A5.
>>
>> It is easier than a printf: evtest /dev/input/accel reports the range [0..512] and the current values.
>>
>> I have checked that and the GTA04A5 also reports roughly 256.
>>
>> So I think you should test (after I have uploaded it to the server) if it is now ok for you.
>>
>> BR,
>> Nikolaus
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>> Sven
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Von: "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns at goldelico.com <mailto:hns at goldelico.com>>
>> An: Sven Dyroff <S.Dyroff at phytec.de <mailto:S.Dyroff at phytec.de>>
>> Kopie: List for communicating with real GTA04 owners <gta04-owner at goldelico.com <mailto:gta04-owner at goldelico.com>>
>> Datum: 11.04.2018 19:21
>> Betreff: Re: [Gta04-owner] Second trial with QtMoko2
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Sven,
>>
>> Am 05.04.2018 um 18:05 schrieb Sven Dyroff <S.Dyroff at phytec.de <mailto:S.Dyroff at phytec.de>>:
>>
>> Hello Nikolaus,
>>
>> > I have now booted my GTA04A4 and the orientation is completely correct.
>> > Hm. Maybe a subtle difference between GTA04A4 and A5? They use different accelerometer chips.
>>
>> something like that is what I already assumed. Would have wondered me if some scaling factors would have gone lost by just rebuilding QtMoko...
>>
>> I have now added a device version detection to swap the horizontal axis if we run on a GTA04A5:
>>
>> http://git.goldelico.com/?p=gta04-qtmoko.git;a=commit;h=04c30a3b18be8b55148427d6c63423837f6a77cc <http://git.goldelico.com/?p=gta04-qtmoko.git;a=commit;h=04c30a3b18be8b55148427d6c63423837f6a77cc>
>>
>> I have not yet published the new debian packages, but will do soon. So apt-get update will not
>> yet find anything new.
>>
>> BR,
>> Nikolaus
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