[Gta04-owner] Group Buy
Eric André
eric.andre at rican.ch
Thu Dec 1 20:18:24 CET 2011
Hi Dr, Hi All,
To increase the number of orderers,
I think that a nice webpage with:
-An easy to understand description of the device, its advantages
-Some friendly pictures
That (its link) could easily and simply be sent in a simpla mail without toomuch explanations to, let's say, maybe not my mother, but my father or "bordergeek" friends could, IMHO, help to enlarge the potentially interrested people.
It is also a very easy way to talk and inform about the gta04 for people having billions of things to do and never enough time.
(Sorry for my poor English)
Eric André
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> 4. Re: GTA04 Group Buy - Status (Benedikt B?r | Relamp.tk)
> 5. Re: GTA04 Group Buy - Status (Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller)
> 6. Re: GTA04 Group Buy - Status (Benedikt B?r | Relamp.tk)
> 7. Re: GTA04 Group Buy - Status (Joerg Eesmann)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 16:49:14 +0100
> From: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <hns at goldelico.com>
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> Subject: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status
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> Dear all,
>
> now, several days after the announcement of the "GTA04 group
> tour", the first subscriptions have arrived (thanks you to all who
> have already subscribed!).
>
> And we have already seen many improvements by the kernel
> and distro developers that show how much superior the GTA04
> hardware has become compared to the GTA02.
>
> When looking at the filling level indicator:
>
> http://www.handheld-linux.com/gta04-level.php
>
> it shows that already 20% of the time has passed. The remaining
> time until 10th of February may look as plenty of time.
>
> But we have so far just 6% of the minimum quantity that is
> required to keep the price as indicated. I.e. we should already
> have triple as many orders if we assume linear growth.
>
> This is not enough.
>
> Unfortunately, one thing is clear: if the 350 are not reached
> in time, there won't be a mass market priced GTA04. Just
> the more expensive variant "from stock" will remain :(
>
> And it will be very unlikely that there will be any offer for a
> "next chance". We can expect a new subscription offer (and
> reduced price for the "from stock" units) only if this one
> becomes successful. And thinking about extending
> the subscription timeframe also won't help.
>
> Is it possible at all to reach the 350 units?
>
> Yes, definitively.
>
> There have been distributed approx. 15k GTA02 units
> and 3k GTA01 units in total. So if we can convince 10% of
> the owners for a GTA04 upgrade, we have 1800. And if we
> just get 2% we have the 350 units.
>
> And, the total smartphone market worldwide is predicted
> to be 400 million devices in 2012. So we should be able
> to convince 1 person in 1 million!
>
> So I think it is possible.
>
> Now, what can we all do to improve the chances of a second
> birth of a mass market Openmoko?
>
> I think we need to heavily increase the awareness about
> the GTA04 in the Linux communities! There have been no
> reports in the usual new channels of the announcement
> that the GTA04 is now ready to be ordered. At least I have
> not seen them.
>
> And, if I read this:
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/30/smartphone_spying_app/
>
> it is obvious why the open and free software community needs
> a device where every individual has control over the software.
>
> Some ideas:
>
> ? we convince our friends to upgrade their GTA01/02 as well
> (on orders of 5 units or more, there will be an additional
> rebate).
>
> * become a local reseller.
>
> * contact your old friends from the intense discussions on
> the openmoko community-list. I think only a percentage (10%?)
> of the previous subscribers are still subscribed. So they may
> not even be aware about this new developments.
>
> ? we can talk about the GTA04 in general and this offer in our favorite
> blogs, forums, twitters, facebooks, mailing lists, conferences
>
> * we notify magazines like slashdot.org or linuxfordevices.com
>
> ? add an <img> link to the Filling Level image and/or link
> the group tour order page from home pages, blogs, project
> pages etc.
>
> * help to provide complete devices:
> - design and build your own cases (3D printing, wooden)
> - or look at e.g. eBay for used/defective GTA01/GTA02
> devices and offer an upgrade service.
>
> If you have additional ideas, please share!
>
> Nikolaus
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:21:42 +0100
> From: Hermann Schw?rzler <hermann.schwaerzler at chello.at>
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> hello
>
> Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller schrieb:
> [...]
>
> > * we notify magazines like slashdot.org or linuxfordevices.com
>
> or for the german-talking part of europe: c't of heise Verlag.
> http://www.heise.de/ct/
>
> I am a subscriber of this magazine and I am willing to notify them.
> but probably you would like to do it yourself?
>
> greetings
> hermann
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 17:54:27 +0100
> From: "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns at goldelico.com>
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> Am 01.12.2011 um 17:21 schrieb Hermann Schw?rzler:
>
> > hello
> >
> > Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller schrieb:
> > [...]
> >
> > > * we notify magazines like slashdot.org or linuxfordevices.com
> >
> > or for the german-talking part of europe: c't of heise Verlag.
> > http://www.heise.de/ct/
> >
> > I am a subscriber of this magazine and I am willing to notify them.
> > but probably you would like to do it yourself?
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have enough time to write
> articles or press releases myself (and am not
> good in doing that). In that situation it may be
> better if some third person just notifies them
> and provides links to the "news".
>
> So if someone could do that?
>
> Nikolaus
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:00:55 +0100
> From: "Benedikt B?r | Relamp.tk" <beniwtv at relamp.tk>
> To: gta04-owner at goldelico.com
> Subject: Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status
> Message-ID: <4ED7B2C7.8010101 at relamp.tk>
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> On 12/01/2011 05:54 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> > Am 01.12.2011 um 17:21 schrieb Hermann Schw?rzler:
> >
> > > hello
> > >
> > > Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller schrieb:
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > * we notify magazines like slashdot.org or linuxfordevices.com
> > > or for the german-talking part of europe: c't of heise Verlag.
> > > http://www.heise.de/ct/
> > >
> > > I am a subscriber of this magazine and I am willing to notify them.
> > > but probably you would like to do it yourself?
> > Unfortunately, I don't have enough time to write
> > articles or press releases myself (and am not
> > good in doing that). In that situation it may be
> > better if some third person just notifies them
> > and provides links to the "news".
> >
> > So if someone could do that?
> >
> > Nikolaus
>
> Hi Nikolaus,
>
> Just wanted to say this...
>
> Just like some others on the list, I am planning to buying one. However,
> this is not possible for me until late December / early January.
> So I think some of us could just be waiting for their Christmas money :)
>
> Ben
>
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 18:18:44 +0100
> From: "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns at goldelico.com>
> To: List for communicating with real GTA04 owners
> <gta04-owner at goldelico.com>
> Subject: Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status
> Message-ID: <9F72D8DC-C631-4BFA-B9F1-50CBD3AE7729 at goldelico.com>
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>
> Hi Ben,
>
> Am 01.12.2011 um 18:00 schrieb Benedikt B?r | Relamp.tk:
>
> > On 12/01/2011 05:54 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> > > Am 01.12.2011 um 17:21 schrieb Hermann Schw?rzler:
> > >
> > > > hello
> > > >
> > > > Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller schrieb:
> > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > > > * we notify magazines like slashdot.org or linuxfordevices.com
> > > > or for the german-talking part of europe: c't of heise Verlag.
> > > > http://www.heise.de/ct/
> > > >
> > > > I am a subscriber of this magazine and I am willing to notify them.
> > > > but probably you would like to do it yourself?
> > > Unfortunately, I don't have enough time to write
> > > articles or press releases myself (and am not
> > > good in doing that). In that situation it may be
> > > better if some third person just notifies them
> > > and provides links to the "news".
> > >
> > > So if someone could do that?
> > >
> > > Nikolaus
> >
> > Hi Nikolaus,
> >
> > Just wanted to say this...
> >
> > Just like some others on the list, I am planning to buying one.
> > However, this is not possible for me until late December / early
> > January. So I think some of us could just be waiting for their
> > Christmas money :)
>
> Yes, everyone has his/her own decisions to take. And I know that it
> is a quite huge amount of money for our passion (having myself spent
> a lot of money and time for the GTA04 to happen).
>
> Anyways, you could help starting to convince others even before
> subscribing yourself...
>
> Nikolaus
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:26:11 +0100
> From: "Benedikt B?r | Relamp.tk" <beniwtv at relamp.tk>
> To: gta04-owner at goldelico.com
> Subject: Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status
> Message-ID: <4ED7B8B3.7020307 at relamp.tk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi Nikolaus,
>
> On 12/01/2011 06:18 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> > Hi Ben,
> >
> > Am 01.12.2011 um 18:00 schrieb Benedikt B?r | Relamp.tk:
> >
> > > On 12/01/2011 05:54 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> > > > Am 01.12.2011 um 17:21 schrieb Hermann Schw?rzler:
> > > >
> > > > > hello
> > > > >
> > > > > Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller schrieb:
> > > > > [...]
> > > > >
> > > > > > * we notify magazines like slashdot.org or linuxfordevices.com
> > > > > or for the german-talking part of europe: c't of heise Verlag.
> > > > > http://www.heise.de/ct/
> > > > >
> > > > > I am a subscriber of this magazine and I am willing to notify
> > > > > them. but probably you would like to do it yourself?
> > > > Unfortunately, I don't have enough time to write
> > > > articles or press releases myself (and am not
> > > > good in doing that). In that situation it may be
> > > > better if some third person just notifies them
> > > > and provides links to the "news".
> > > >
> > > > So if someone could do that?
> > > >
> > > > Nikolaus
> > > Hi Nikolaus,
> > >
> > > Just wanted to say this...
> > >
> > > Just like some others on the list, I am planning to buying one.
> > > However, this is not possible for me until late December / early
> > > January. So I think some of us could just be waiting for their
> > > Christmas money :)
> > Yes, everyone has his/her own decisions to take. And I know that it
> > is a quite huge amount of money for our passion (having myself spent
> > a lot of money and time for the GTA04 to happen).
> >
> > Anyways, you could help starting to convince others even before
> > subscribing yourself...
>
> Definitively I will let everyone I know know that there is a free phone.
> As a tweaker (the only thing not tweaked in my home is the toaster), I
> will talk about it a lot with friends, etc. :)
>
> Ben
>
> >
> > Nikolaus
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Gta04-owner at goldelico.com
> > http://lists.goldelico.com/mailman/listinfo/gta04-owner
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:27:01 +0100
> From: Joerg Eesmann <jeesmann at gmx.de>
> To: List for communicating with real GTA04 owners
> <gta04-owner at goldelico.com>
> Subject: Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status
> Message-ID: <1322760421.1841.6.camel at fred.uchi.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 18:00 +0100, "Benedikt B?r | Relamp.tk" wrote:
> > On 12/01/2011 05:54 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> > > Am 01.12.2011 um 17:21 schrieb Hermann Schw?rzler:
> > >
> > > > hello
> > > >
> > > > Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller schrieb:
> > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > > > * we notify magazines like slashdot.org or linuxfordevices.com
> > > > or for the german-talking part of europe: c't of heise Verlag.
> > > > http://www.heise.de/ct/
> > > >
> > > > I am a subscriber of this magazine and I am willing to notify them.
> > > > but probably you would like to do it yourself?
> > > Unfortunately, I don't have enough time to write
> > > articles or press releases myself (and am not
> > > good in doing that). In that situation it may be
> > > better if some third person just notifies them
> > > and provides links to the "news".
> > >
> > > So if someone could do that?
> > >
> > > Nikolaus
> >
> > Hi Nikolaus,
> >
> > Just wanted to say this...
> >
> > Just like some others on the list, I am planning to buying one.
> > However, this is not possible for me until late December / early
> > January. So I think some of us could just be waiting for their
> > Christmas money :)
> >
> > Ben
> >
> Hi Nikolaus,
> same for me, I am intending to buy one.
> Maybe we really should count the intensions to buy, to see if we come
> into the area of 350...
>
> keep up the good work,
>
> BR,
> Joerg
>
>
>
> > >
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