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This is a demonstration of Inferno running on an Android phone. Sandia National Labs has adapted the Inferno operating system to act as a more phone-oriented...</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 15, 2018 12:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> community@tinkerphones.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tinkerphones] Curious</font>
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<div class="PlainText">On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 17:54:56 +0200, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:<br>
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> What are you currently working on (wrt. to Tinkerphones)?<br>
> What do you expect from doing this? What are you missing<br>
> most? What should happen to make you contribute here more<br>
> actively?<br>
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I haven't done much related to Tinkerphones in the last few months. I was<br>
away for a while starting then quitting a new job, so I didn't really plan to<br>
do much.<br>
<br>
One of the things I did in preparation for moving away to work was to try and<br>
prepare a more modern Linux kernel and userspace for an old laptop I picked<br>
up at the end of last year: <a previewremoved="true" class="OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk533943" href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newit.co.uk%2Fshop%2FEFIKA_MX_Smartbook&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb3434727ec184230736508d5d2d979ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636646753845199329&sdata=7n58m5hEEyN4NMYihzjWels3OqQ9%2BrwooqCJs7c70l8%3D&reserved=0">
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It's now out of stock at that vendor, and they seemed to be the last place<br>
to sell it. :-( I wanted to pick up a unit before they disappeared<br>
completely.<br>
<br>
A Debian contributor had ported Jessie to it and I was able to use his<br>
distribution but couldn't reproduce the build myself, which was frustrating.<br>
I also got a modern FreeBSD system running on it thanks to the existing port<br>
that had been done many years ago:<br>
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Getting it running was simply a case of using the correct configuration,<br>
reverting a more recent change to USB support and using a custom version of<br>
U-Boot that the developer had made. So there is a way to use an up-to-date<br>
Unix-like system on this old hardware that doesn't involve Linux. ;-)<br>
<br>
I also played around with Inferno (<a previewremoved="true" class="OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk411032" href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Finferno-os.org%2Finferno%2Findex.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb3434727ec184230736508d5d2d979ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636646753845199329&sdata=DXHSqst9l8VNb2gZ7ZRRxqmEiqTImpstMrJ%2BjhImXII%3D&reserved=0">https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Finferno-os.org%2Finferno%2Findex.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb3434727ec184230736508d5d2d979ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636646753845199329&sdata=DXHSqst9l8VNb2gZ7ZRRxqmEiqTImpstMrJ%2BjhImXII%3D&reserved=0</a>)<br>
again, running it as a guest OS under Linux on the laptop, and trying to do<br>
a native port to the hardware. Inferno is an interesting, but under-explored<br>
system, possibly because keeps some Unix heritage but discards a lot of what<br>
other Unix derivatives need to run software. I keep coming back to it because<br>
I find it fascinating and it contains a lot of technologies that look like<br>
they would be really useful.<br>
<br>
David<br>
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