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Hello Nikolaus,<br>
<br>
some more thoughts upon your question:<br>
<br>
You should also ask, what people like with their ${PHONE} in
contrary to an Openmoko. And there's one important aspect: When you
tell them, that they *can* freely choose the software for the
Openmoko and flash it onto it by themselfes, their first reaction is
to discover that they *must* concern with lots of technical details,
where they never spent any thought on. Then their first question is:
"Can I do it?", not meaning the technical possibility but the
intellectual. <br>
<br>
Then further discussions reveal one important show stopper: They're
using Laptops and/or PCs with Windows, not with Linux!<br>
<br>
That's an important relationship: For using Openmoko you need Linux
skills, not only for the phone, but also for your Laptop and/or PC!<br>
<br>
So in the end that's also the way they see the Openmoko: They see it
as *the* "Linux-Phone"! That's the way they call it to be, under any
aspect, and undeniable they're right with that!<br>
<br>
Unfortunately if you discuss with Linux-Users about their ${PHONE},
they prefer to hack and reflash their ordinary ${PHONE} instead of
getting an Openmoko. The feeling of succuss having cracked an
commercial phone seems to be more important for them than really
having a free phone.<br>
<br>
So I want to throw one idea into the area, but without knowing if
it's really a good one: Could it help if we have a simple-to-use
Windows-Application, that makes the same as makesd.sh under Linux,
namely creating a proper formatted and recorded SD card? So that a
Windows-User could start using our "Linux-Phone" without having
Linux-skills? In my opinion Qtmoko v52 is sophisticated enough to
give it a trial. But I don't know if that's a way that we - the
community - are really interested in to try out...<br>
<br>
By the way, in one point I have to correct myself. There's one
technical point that in any case must be done in order to give our
"Linux-Phone" the acceptance that it deserves: Having a working
camera together with an QR-scanner! Being able to read QR-codes with
your phone has become such an self-evident daily use-case, that
noone accepts to spend much money for a phone that is not able to do
this.<br>
<br>
And perhaps it's also worth to think about if it's really senseful
to spend much efforts in getting a driver working for a 1.3 Mpix
camera, today. Wouldn't it be better to spend the GTA04A5 at least a
5 Mpix camera? Usefully one with already existing working driver for
the OMAP3?<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
Sven<br>
<br>
<br>
On 22.02.2013 10:00, Sven Dyroff wrote:
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cite="mid:OFCD6FDFDB.DFAD06B1-ONC1257B1A.002FDEDC-C1257B1A.003176C7@phytec.de"
type="cite"><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Hello Nikolaus,</font>
<br>
<br>
<font face="sans-serif" size="2">as far as I could collect
experiences
the problem that you address is not a technical one, but an
ideological.
Especially when we take a look at Apple. There're so much things
people
don't like, because Apple makes many efforts that their phones
are strictly
proprietary. Apple's phones are very expensive. Apple's phones
will be
assembled by 13-year old children in China and meanwhile nearly
everyone
knows that. But if you go into discussion with people whose
phone is from
Apple, they find unbelievable outrageous excuses, why they buy
them, anyway.
And if you discuss long enough, you'll always get the same
answers. It's
simply the same answers, why people drive oversized big and
fuel-guzzling
cars in times with increasing traffic-jams, decreasing offer of
parking
lots and increasing prices of gasoline: It's stylish. It's a
status symbol.
It's like wearing fur.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font face="sans-serif" size="2">Or in other short words: If
you're using
an Openmoko, you're standing outside of society. It's like being
punk with
cockscomb.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font face="sans-serif" size="2">Best regards</font>
<br>
<font face="sans-serif" size="2"> Sven</font>
<br>
<font face="sans-serif" size="2"> </font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<font color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif" size="1">Von:
</font><font face="sans-serif" size="1">"Dr. H. Nikolaus
Schaller" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:hns@goldelico.com"><hns@goldelico.com></a></font>
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<font color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif" size="1">Datum:
</font><font face="sans-serif" size="1">22.02.2013 08:46</font>
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<font color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif" size="1">Betreff:
</font><font face="sans-serif" size="1">[Community]
Next generation OpenPhoenux devices - What people don't
like with their ${PHONE}</font>
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<tt><font size="2">Hi all,<br>
as things (hardware/software/case) of the current GTA04
generation stabilize,<br>
I think it is time to start exchanging thoughts about the next
generation<br>
of OpenPhoenux devices.<br>
<br>
So to give this a start, please can you interview your friends
what devices<br>
they have, they use and why? And what they don't like with
them?<br>
<br>
Well, it will be obvious that they like chic design, big
display, plethora<br>
of applications & games, quadcore, graphics, the low price
etc.<br>
<br>
But since we won't be able to copy all this (e.g. a Nexus 4
feature set
and<br>
price point), I am looking for the unexpected. For something
what your
friends<br>
are missing in all offers and something we can do, but the
"big ones"
can't or<br>
don't want to do.<br>
<br>
Maybe this gives us some directions for planning a next
generation OpenPhoenux.<br>
<br>
BR,<br>
Nikolaus<br>
<br>
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