[Tinkerphones] ZeroPhone site offline

[Andreas Kemnade]

Hi,

On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 10:15:45 +0100
"H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns at goldelico.com> wrote:

> > Am 28.12.2021 um 20:40 schrieb Martin <debacle at debian.org>:
> > 
> > On 2021-12-28 19:35, Dr. Michael Lauer wrote:  
> >> That’s a pity. In particular with the recent Pi Zero 2 design that could’ve
> >> been a pretty sweet alternative feature phone.  
> > 
> > My main problem with the ZP was the extremely small display.
> > I'm just too old to be able to read it without magnifying glass.
> > Apart from that it was a very cool phone!  
> 
> Indeed, it was a nice and good idea for its time.
> 
> But to be curious: what would you do with a feature phone nowadays?
> If there is a browser it is crap. Games? Banking? Navigation? Messenger?
> My mother-in-law has one, just in case she must do a phone call.
> There is one more: receiving SMS for banking or 2-factor authentication.
> 
well, emergency stuff for digital-detox outdoor times... And if there is
a wifi hotspot, use that with some ebook reader to quickly sync. Well
crap browsers and/or limited battery do not let you look at
coronavirus.jhu.edu all the time.

In this summer I had my pinephone, my gta04 and my kobo with me in
Scandinavia. I had often situations where the experience with the gta04
was better than with the pinephone, reading email worked better with
the gta04. For other stuff I often know the most easily accessible
websites. 

Here in Germany I sometimes spend nights in my hammock outside, and I
am quite good in finding spots with little/no network coverage. So have
to plan where to fulfill my internet needs anyways. So I could also
just use the kobo with wifi hotspots and the gta04 or something more
simple for emergency stuff. 

> Next question: are there enough interested developers for writing free software?
> 
> And one more thing to consider is the power demand of a non-phone-processor.
> Especially the ∏02 needs much more energy or must be heavily underclocked
> (if that is possible at all).
> 
> Even the N900 upstream kernel is wrestling with power management of the
> good old omap3.
>
hmm, several problems are just with runtime-idling the machine, not
suspending it. Did you read the values they have? That would meet the
100 hours+ standby requirement.
 
> The key feature of a featurephone over a smartphone is that it can
> run 100 hours or more in standby but wake up immediately. And all that
> coming in a small and lightweight case with big buttons and display.
> 
> This combination of requirements is very difficult to achieve with
> off-the-shelf components.
> 
Maybe you go the other way round, take the hardware where pm goals can
be easily fulfilled and think about what you can do with that. Glue
some modem onto the PineTime?!

Regards,
Andreas



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