[Tinkerphones] New tinkerphone gadgets in Goldelico shop?

Belisko Marek marek.belisko at gmail.com
Mon Nov 13 11:45:34 CET 2017


On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Belisko Marek <marek.belisko at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 8:33 AM, H. Nikolaus Schaller <hns at goldelico.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>>> Am 04.11.2017 um 22:17 schrieb Niels <nift at maclisp.org>:
>>>
>>> "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns at goldelico.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>
>>>>> Am 03.11.2017 um 13:06 schrieb Paul Boddie <paul at boddie.org.uk>:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday 3. November 2017 10.54.44 H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>>>>>>> Am 03.11.2017 um 10:32 schrieb Thomas Munker <t.munker at gmx.net>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i would like to see some small cryptographic hardware, like eg. yubikey.
>>>>>>> At best easy interfaceable to gta02/gta04 or with necessary interface
>>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have checked what they have:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.yubico.com/product/yubikey-4-series/
>>>>>> <https://www.yubico.com/product/yubikey-4-series/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems they offer USB-A and USB-C. So neither Mini nor Micro-USB. So it
>>>>>> needs a proper adapter.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is an article on LWN.net about these devices and others:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://lwn.net/Articles/736231/
>>>>>
>>>>> It covers the Yubikey NEO and Yubikey 4 plus the Nitrokey Pro and FST-01.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting reading!
>>>>
>>>> To me it looks as if it would best fit our community to simply build
>>>> enough FST-01 units, so that they are not out of stock...
>>>>
>>>> Everything is said to be free and open, even if the device isn't the fastest one:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/vinaebizs/fst-01
>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/SeeedDocument/FST-01/master/img/Fst-01-schematic.png
>>>>
>>>> So it looks not very difficult to have them produced and stocked by us at
>>>> a reasonable price.
>>
>>>
>>> I agree.
>>>
>>> I have been wanting a FST-01 for a while, but not found any place to
>>> buy one.
>>
>> I have studied the schematics and it will take less than 1 day to prepare for
>> producing some clone...
>>
>> Cost is also reasonable, e.g. something below 30€ seems feasible for tiny
>> quantities (if produced in batches of 10). So it is possible to provide
>> permanent supply.
>>
>> What I understood is that it needs some flashing tool to be connected to
>> a jumper. Maybe someone can elaborate this.
>>
>> One thing is to be discussed about the USB interface:
>>
>> Should we keep the USB-A plug or try to replace it by an Mini-USB-A so that
>> it can be directly plugged into a GTA0x?
>>
>> Or even 3 variants with Standard-USB, MiniUSB and µUSB? Or does someone have
>> an idea if multiple sockets are feasible?
>>
>> USB-C makes no sense IMHO, because then a much faster processor with USB3 speed
>> should be used... This would be a completely different project.
>>
>> So what can be the next steps?
>> * I await your comments and comments about being interested
>> * maybe someone should take care about the programming procedures
> I have experience with programming stm32 (there exists stm32uart
> utility which can burn SW) but in this case I'm unsure.
> Does stm32 boot from external spi flash or external spi flash is used
> for something else?
In meantime I found that it's possible via ST-link only:
http://wiki.seeed.cc/FST-01/
also here: http://www.gniibe.org/memo/development/fst-01/dongle/fst-01-swd-connection.html
so if we do new design maybe would be good to add for user possibility
to update FW.
>> * then I can open a shop entry for preordering
>> * I can prepare production data
>> * and order 2-3 samples and have them built
>> * those samples go to those doing the first preorders
>> * things would be tested/debugged
>> * after that it is possible to provide permanent service for the community until components become EOL
>>
>> BR,
>> Nikolaus
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>
BR,

marek



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