[Tinkerphones] Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: Librem 5

Josua Mayer josua.mayer97 at gmail.com
Tue Nov 7 15:55:32 CET 2017


Hi Jonas,

2017-11-07 15:10 GMT+01:00 Jonas Smedegaard <jonas at jones.dk>:
> Quoting H. Nikolaus Schaller (2017-11-07 14:47:42)
>> It is less money compared to the budget Purism now has. 2 Mio USD...
>> We just would need to convince them to help to finish the GTA04A5...
>> It would be just 1% for them.
>>
>> Of course we must define what the benefit for Purism would be.
>> Hm. For example, they could go into the annals of open source as the
>> hero who rescued the GTA04A5 project to build on it.
>
> A possible incentive for Purism might be if GTA04A5 could deliver fast.
>
> The fate of Librem 5 hangs on multiple (arguably thin) threads, one of
> which being existence of Phone-oriented software for Mainline linux, and
> if geeks had access *soon* to a tinkerphone, that would likely boost
> developer time poured into KDE and GNOME and Enlightenment and other
> efforts in supporting Phone environments.
Maybe.
So it would surely help with developing facilities such as telephony,
power management, sensor integrations.
And I am sure it could boost interest in enlighenment, see below:
Gnome and KDE still appear to rely on the existence of a proper OpenGL
implementation. I remember that about a year ago the person behind
netrunner was trying to run kde on the i.MX6 Cubox-i and failed due to
the vivante OpenGL blob lacking in functionality and stability.
We would surely have a related issue, though for development the
llvm-based renderer should be an acceptable fall-back.

Besides the GPU shortcomings, I could see most benefit for the desktop
environment projects themselves, as with the gta04 they could develop
on top of mainline linux, taking a heavily patched and outdated vendor
kernel (which the librem 5 might use especially when starting out) out
of the debug-/blame-chain.
>
> Can you try estimate a timeframe of realizing GTA04A5, from the moment
> money is magically no longer an issue?
>
>
>  - Jonas
>
> P.S. I am hired by Purism, but do not represent them here (expect me to
> very explicitly state so if I ever get the priviledge of representing
> Purism or any other corporation).
>
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