[Community] Status GTA04A5

Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller hns at goldelico.com
Thu Jul 11 21:15:18 CEST 2013

Am 11.07.2013 um 20:54 schrieb kardan:

> Hi,
> thanks for the update.
> While reading your olympic resumee I missed a word about the FairPhone
> which is still in the race, or at least production is queued. [1]

Yes, I also omitted the Firefox OS, webOS, Sailfish, ... initiatives.

This is IMHO like doing local contests during training between olympic games :)

Since you mention Fairphone I doubt that it can help *us*. The reason is that the
focus on fairness is a pure production issue. It does not change the device or the

And I know that some of the bigger companies are already preparing themselves
for sort of a "fairness" certificate. I.e. in 2-3 years they will force all component
suppliers to provide such (and we can of course benefit - but not differentiate).

So I expect it to be something in the line of WEEE, ROHS, REACH and everyone
(including us) will be doing it. This means we can't do something different based on
the fairness idea.

> Sorry, I can not sponsor the development but I would like to help with
> a new campaign. Maybe a small flyer based on the key benefits of
> GTA04 over the FairPhone and former open phones would attract more
> people. I would love to spread them.

Yes, that would be a good idea!

We have tons of materials on the openphoenux.org
and gta04.org pages (look through the "Documents" folders).

> Keep the flame burning!

And supply of fuel :)

-- hns

> Kardan
> [1]
> http://buy-a-phone-start-a-movement.fairphone.com/en/fairphone-excl-charger.html

> Am Thu, 11 Jul 2013 11:44:37 +0200
> schrieb "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns at goldelico.com>:
>> Hi all,
>> I think it is again time to discuss the status of the GTA04A5 boards.
>> Schematics are done, Layout almost finished. And yesterday I talked
>> to the production company and they would have capacity.
>> One minor issue is that we don't exactly know which components
>> have become obsolete and need to be replaced (which may touch
>> the layout again if they are not a drop-in pin-compatible
>> replacement).
>> But all these technical things are easy to solve if some energy is
>> invested.
>> We currently have these figures of entries on the wishlist:
>> 9	GTA04 Motherboards
>> 9	Letux 2804 (i.e. built into GTA02 case)
>> 3	Letux 7004
>> This makes 21 boards which is still far from becoming economically
>> feasible, especially since some of the 21 wishes have quite
>> challenging price expectations (e.g. 160 EUR for a Letux 7004 or 200
>> EUR for a GTA04 board). This indicates valid wishes, but is also an
>> indicator that they will not buy if we produce and offer at real
>> production cost. And nobody would sponsor something.
>> This all is understandable since commercial devices and failed
>> projects like Vivaldi/Spark have set the bar of expectations to a
>> level that is not achievable by our project.
>> I see it now like the olympic games of phone&computer integration
>> which did run for approx. 10 years and did end in 2012.
>> Samsung/Android have won the Gold medal, Apple/iOS the silver medal.
>> And for the community projects it was nice to have participated - but
>> no medal.
>> So the tournament is over. IMHO, Linux has reached the "palmtop". 
>> Pushing for getting Linux on non-linux devices and Linux capable
>> hardware to the masses (like Openmoko did pioneer) is no longer
>> required, because it is done. And sponsors are not spending money any
>> more, because there is no need to push Linux any more.
>> What happens between Olympic games? Training for the next game.
>> So other topics are on the horizon: security, energy efficiency,
>> useability, operating system improvements, ...
>> Back to the GTA04A5 hardware plans, we all have to wait for more
>> wishes (from people accepting a price premium for freedom) to be
>> registered.
>> And wait for new ideas growing from this community. The GTA04 hardware
>> could still help better than any other platform because it has become
>> quite mature, is flexible, well documented and well understood, i.e.
>> creative people can focus on inventing new things and find people who
>> know the GTA04 details.
>> I am curious about the new ideas to appear in this community...
>> BR,
>> Nikolaus
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