<font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hello Andreas,</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">>> If the remaining 99.9% of mankind
would understand what's going on,</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">>> then reputation of these "opponents"
would decrease significantly.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">></font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">> Well, it is religion. People sometimes
trust to navigation systems to</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">> make them magically go over the
water. People believe in that. Well,</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">> there is an app for something so
that must be ok and good.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">> If that would not be the case then
nerds would be asked by usual</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">> computer users questions like:"If
I use this communication technology,</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">> my friend has always to use a special
device, is there any</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">> alternative?"</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I don't think that it's due to religion.
I think it's digital dementia.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">We have learned to navigate with this:</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> </font><a href="https://www.amazon.de/Shell-Atlas-2016-2017-Deutschland/dp/3826460448"><font size=2 face="sans-serif">https://www.amazon.de/Shell-Atlas-2016-2017-Deutschland/dp/3826460448</font></a>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">How many people are still able to handle
this, nowadays?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I was told that meanwhile young people
have been sighted while trying to zoom the schedules of train arrivals
/ departures in railway stations by two fingers... :-o</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">> Hmm, lets cite Immanual Kant.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I really like Immanuel Kant very much.
But I think in this topic he cannot help.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">> IMHO that is the main point of
childhood and a bit also of adults.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">> Even children do not get that tought
so often. Sometimes parents</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">> are not happy anymore if their
children just play around in</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">> kindergarten. There has always
to be some kind of organized learning.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">> Hmm, is that really so much better
than having children to work?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Indeed this is an important question.
But it has already been answered 47 years ago. See here:</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> </font><a href="http://fragmente-wiesbaden.de/resources/Illich_Erziehung.pdf"><font size=2 face="sans-serif">http://fragmente-wiesbaden.de/resources/Illich_Erziehung.pdf</font></a>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Best regards</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Sven</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> </font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Von:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Andreas Kemnade <andreas@kemnade.info></font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">An:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">gta04-owner@goldelico.com</font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Datum:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">28.06.2017 19:52</font>
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What went wrong with Ubuntu's phone effort</font>
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<br><tt><font size=3>Hi,<br>
</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=3>On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 16:59:59 +0200<br>
Sven Dyroff <S.Dyroff@phytec.de> wrote:<br>
</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=3>> Hello Nicolaus,<br>
><br>
> > So I'd summarize as: mankind is happy with the status quo of
what is<br>
> offered by the big players,<br>
> > making it too tough for individuals to change or get appreciation.<br>
> ><br>
> > But can this be the answer for the next 100 years?<br>
><br>
> The problem is to provide insight in the key axiom of this system:
"If you<br>
> think that everything is alright, then you don't know what's going
on!"<br>
><br>
><br>
> > The key point seems to be that the commercial and (partially)
closed<br>
> "opponents" don't have a bad reputation.<br>
><br>
> If the remaining 99.9% of mankind would understand what's going on,
then<br>
> reputation of these "opponents" would decrease significantly.<br>
><br>
Well, it is religion. People sometimes trust to navigation systems to<br>
make them magically go over the water. People believe in that. Well,<br>
there is an app for something so that must be ok and good.<br>
If that would not be the case then nerds would be asked by usual<br>
computer users questions like:"If I use this communication technology,<br>
my friend has always to use a special device, is there any<br>
alternative?"<br>
</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=3>Hmm, lets cite Immanual Kant.<br>
</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=3>"Man’s release from his self-incurred tutelage”
(I do not found a good<br>
translation that quickly) „Aufklärung ist der Ausgang des Menschen
aus seiner selbst verschuldeten Unmündigkeit. Unmündigkeit ist das Unvermögen,
sich seines Verstandes ohne Anleitung eines anderen zu bedienen. Selbst
verschuldet ist diese Unmündigkeit, wenn die Ursache derselben nicht am
Mangel des Verstandes, sondern der Entschließung und des Muthes liegt,
sich seiner ohne Leitung eines anderen zu bedienen. Sapere aude [wage es
verständig zu sein]! Habe Muth, dich deines eigenen Verstandes zu bedienen!
ist also der Wahlspruch der Aufklärung.“<br>
><br>
> > Looks like a point of saturation with IT.<br>
><br>
> In my view it's already an overkill with IT. See:<br>
><br>
><br>
> </font></tt><a href="https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRdG757YdLgtQCcBHtVpj_ihghjsfqAHEs_WCRbaXarVuX3WJ5oRA"><tt><font size=3>https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRdG757YdLgtQCcBHtVpj_ihghjsfqAHEs_WCRbaXarVuX3WJ5oRA</font></tt></a><tt><font size=3><br>
><br>
I have seen a continuation with the man standing up in several steps<br>
again and using a wearable with hmd.<br>
</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=3>> </font></tt><a href="https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTGJEeDiw6GBzkynZpIWm5n2oOSGewxAXFDAZPR5ANMpWXAJBQSnw"><tt><font size=3>https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTGJEeDiw6GBzkynZpIWm5n2oOSGewxAXFDAZPR5ANMpWXAJBQSnw</font></tt></a><tt><font size=3><br>
><br>
><br>
Hmm, in the year 2525...<br>
</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=3>> > Have we un-learned to play around and learn
just for fun?<br>
><br>
IMHO that is the main point of childhood and a bit also of adults.<br>
Even children do not get that tought so often. Sometimes parents<br>
are not happy anymore if their children just play around in<br>
kindergarten. There has always to be some kind of organized learning.<br>
Hmm, is that really so much better than having children to work?<br>
</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=3>Regards<br>
Andreas</font></tt>
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