[Community] Staus update GTA04A5

Liviu Farbas liviu.farbas at gmail.com
Tue May 12 19:37:29 CEST 2015

i was thinking at something like the Raspberry Pi, which does not have any
memory built in, and everythin including bootloader is stored on sd card.
On May 12, 2015 11:37 AM, "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns at goldelico.com>

> Hi,
> the GTA04A5 has a NAND flash of 512 MB and a uSD reader up to 32 GB (see
> photos on www.gta04.org). The NAND flash is mainly used for the boot
> loader and a small rescue Linux system but real OS operation is done by
> swapping such uSD cards. So you can for example have a uSD card for
> Replicant and another one for QtMoko. Or put both on one in different
> partitions.
> BR,
> Nikolaus
> Am 12.05.2015 um 10:12 schrieb Liviu Farbas <liviu.farbas at gmail.com>:
> What about the emmc module? Will that module be removable? Or instead a
> built in emmc, wouldn't be a better choice to add a SD card slot? It would
> be really great to experiment with operating systems without the risk of
> corrupting the emmc.
> Best regards,
> Liviu
> On May 11, 2015 10:37 AM, "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns at goldelico.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> you may wonder what is going on with this project. Did it turn into a
>> black hole? Or
>> did someone do a “rm -rf /“ :)
>> No, nothing of that. Therefore, I think we owe you some short status
>> update on this project.
>> There hasn’t been much to report in the last months, but now we have
>> several news
>> within some days.
>> 1. I have checked again and we can still get the GTM601W, but the
>> distributor says
>>     the risk is high that OPTION declares EOL any time and in that case
>> we would have
>>     to make an order of at least 3000 units so that they restart
>> production just for us.
>>    This means we must secure these modules for us now, since there is no
>> replacement
>>    that easily fits into the space constraints of the GTA04 (resp.
>> GTA01/02 board).
>>    Cinterion modules would be nice since they are planned for the Pyra
>> and the Neo900,
>>    but they are approx. 10% too big.
>> 2. we see some difficulties in getting the W2SG0084 GPS module, but that
>> is some
>>     paperwork the distributor has to do with Wi2Wi.
>>    Nevertheless, this is also a risk candidate for EOL because only one
>> distributor shows
>>    stock.
>> 3. There are also good news:
>>     we participate in the risk buy of Samsung 1GB RAM+512MB NAND chips
>> (as
>>     planned for the Neo900). So the GAT04A5 gets twice as much RAM :)
>>     This chip has already been tested by reworking a BeagleBoard XM and
>> modifying
>>     the boot loader (kernel didn’t find the NAND yet, but U-Boot did.
>> This is a problem
>>     that will jointly be fixed with the Neo900 software team).
>> 4. Production: we still are a little away from the quorum of 100
>> preorders (at the
>>     moment of this writing we have estimated approx. half = 45 units).
>> So it is still
>>     not possible to make final decisions about production dates and
>> final pricing.
>>     So we need to get a little more support for our project. If you have
>> ideas, please
>>     let us know or start activities. Many small activities are as good
>> as a big one!
>>     And we know that this is a niche product that requires an existing
>> GTA01/02
>>     device. So it is not possible to “attract the masses”. We must find
>> and convince
>>     the previous GTA01/02 owners whose devices are collecting dust.
>> There had been
>>     produced ca. 15k such devices so that we just need another 1/3% or
>> in other
>>     words only 1 out of 300 GTA02 owners needs to decide for a GTA04A5.
>> 5. Regarding the risk buy of the GTM601W, RAM chips and W2SG0084, I plan
>> to
>>     take the budget (~5100 EUR) that we already have collected.
>>     This will transform the vouchers into ownership of components. So it
>> has the
>>     consequence that we can’t refund in money (cash, bank transfer) any
>> more, but
>>     only in unused hardware components (i.e. 100 EUR ~
>> 1*GTM601+1*RAM+1*GPS)…
>>     For future preorder vouchers you would also buy such a component set
>> (which we
>>     would keep in safe warehouse of course) until we can really build
>> the whole devices.
>> So quite some news and I would be happy if we can fill up the missing
>> preorders [1]
>> sooner than later so that we can start production. Please think about
>> securing your
>> set of components for the last production batch of the most open
>> smartphone platform
>> that we already have.
>> BR and thanks for continued support,
>> Nikolaus Schaller
>> [1]: http://shop.goldelico.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04A5
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